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Friday, March 19, 2010

JUST WHO DO YOU FOLLOW? DISSIDENT NUNS WITH AN AX TO GRIND OR COMMON SENSE?

Holy War Erupts Among Catholics Over Abortion Language in Health Care Bill
FOXNews.com


The abortion language in President Obama's health care reform bill has ignited a holy war among Catholics, sharply dividing them on whether the legislation would subsidize the termination of pregnancies.

While groups representing Catholic hospitals and liberal nuns have come out in support of the bill in recent days, other groups representing Catholic bishops and other nuns have denounced it, saying the bill contains restrictions on abortion funding that don't go far enough.

The White House has touted the support of a group of liberal Catholic nuns in an effort to win over conservative House Democrats who believe the final health care bill they will vote on contains restrictions on abortion funding that they and Catholic bishops say don't go far enough.

Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., who has led the charge to include in the final bill the tougher anti-abortion language passed last November by the House, derided the White House for touting the nuns' support.

"When I'm drafting right-to-life language, I don't call up nuns," he said. Instead, he said he confers with other groups, including "leading bishops, Focus on the Family, and The National Right to Life Committee."

But the liberal nuns aren't the only ones supporting the bill.

On Saturday, the chief executive of the Catholic Health Association, which represents more than 600 hospitals that do not provide abortions as a matter of conscience, wrote on the group's Web site that although the legislation isn't perfect, it represents a "major first step" toward covering all Americans and would make "great improvements" for millions of people.

But on Monday, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops took issue with the hospital association's belief that defects to the bill will be fixed after passage.

"Assurances that the moral objections to the legislation can be met only after the bill is passed seemed little like asking us, in Midwestern parlance, to buy a pig in a poke," Cardinal Francis George, president of the conference said on the group's Web site.

In an unusual public break with bishops, some 60 leaders of religious orders representing 59,000 Catholic nuns sent lawmakers a letter Wednesday urging them to pass the Senate bill.

"Despite false claims to the contrary, the Senate bill will not provide taxpayer funding for elective abortions," the letter says, adding that the legislation also will help support pregnant women and "this is the real pro-life stance."

But another group, the National Council of Major Superior of Women Religious, which represents 129 orders and nearly 10,000 nuns, say the bishops' position is "authentic" and expressed outrage that the liberal social justice advocacy group Network is attempting to speak on behalf of the Catholic nuns.

"Protection of life and freedom of conscience are central to morally responsible judgment," the group said. "We join the bishops in seeking ethically sound legislation."

The current legislation would allow private insurance plans operating in a new insurance marketplace to cover abortions, provided they do not use taxpayer funds. What makes that tricky is that many of the plans' customers would be receiving federal subsidies to help pay their premiums. So the legislation requires plans offering abortion coverage to collect a separate premium from their policyholders. Those separate checks would have to be kept in a different account from money for other health care services.

The abortion provisions in Obama's bill are identical to those in the Senate legislation that passed on Christmas Eve. But the bishops and National Right to Life prefer the approach in the House bill.

The House bill prohibited any plans receiving federal subsidies from covering abortion. Women desiring insurance coverage for the procedure would have to buy a separate policy.

Federal law since the 1970s has forbidden the use of taxpayer funds to cover abortions except in cases of rape, incest or to save the life of the mother. But many private insurance plans cover abortion as a legal medical procedure. How to deal with the divisive issue in health care overhaul was a source of controversy from the beginning.

The Rev. Frank Pavone, national director for Priests of Life, blasted the liberal nuns, saying their statement in support of the bill "does not represent 59,000 nuns; it represents approximately 59 nuns who signed it."

Pavone said while he's not sure on what expert analysis the signers have relied, the bishops relied on the expertise of legal analysts.

"It is absurd to advocate social justice while risking the expansion of a holocaust," he said. "The right to life is at the heart of social justice. We can't pursue one by sacrificing the other."

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

FROM THE UNITED STATES CONFERENCE OF CATHOLIC BISHOPS' SPOKES-SISTER:

USCCB Says NETWORK OF DISSIDENT NUNS is Far Off the Mark

A short and direct statement just came across from Sister Mary Ann Walsh, USCCB Director of Media Relations, correcting the outrageous claim (repeated by many news outfits) that a letter signed by 55 Women Religious in favor of the Senate Health Care Reform bill represents 59,000 American Sisters. Here it is:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Clarification

Washington—A recent letter from Network, a social justice lobby of sisters, grossly overstated whom they represent in a letter to Congress that was also released to media.

Network’s letter, about health care reform, was signed by a few dozen people, and despite what Network said, they do not come anywhere near representing 59,000 American sisters.

The letter had 55 signatories, some individuals, some groups of three to five persons. One endorser signed twice.

There are 793 religious communities in the United States.

The math is clear. Network is far off the mark.

Sister Mary Ann Walsh
Director of Media Relations
United States Conference of Catholic Bishops


Fr. Pavone to Nuns: Right to Life at Heart of Social Justice

WASHINGTON, March 18 /Christian Newswire/ -- Fr. Frank Pavone, National Director of Priests for Life, today responded to the letter from several dozen leaders of women's religious congregations who expressed support for the Senate health care bill.

"First of all, contrary to its claim, this statement does not represent 59,000 nuns; it represents the approximately 59 nuns who signed it. Secondly, while the bishops' analysis of the health care bill relies on the expertise of legal analysts, it is not clear what expert analysis these signers have relied on. Third, it is absurd to advocate social justice while risking the expansion of a holocaust. The right to life is at the heart of social justice. We can't pursue one by sacrificing the other," Fr. Pavone said.

Earlier this week, Priests for Life called upon all clergy and religious to visit the local offices of their US Representatives, and to echo to them the bishops' call to reject the bill in its present form. In the light of this letter from women religious, Priests for Life will redouble its efforts to bring the voices of millions of Catholics to this debate in the days ahead.

Priests for Life is the nation's largest Catholic pro-life organization dedicated to ending abortion and euthanasia. For more information, visit www.priestsforlife.org.

6 comments:

-Brian said...

Ahhh...a "pig in a poke"! There he goes again...Yes, the Cardinal has a way with words!!! I esteem him.

Anonymous said...

Just who are these liberal Sisters? Do they represent particular religious Communites in America?
Or are they 'stand alone Sisters' who are speaking out/signing contrary to the stance of their Communities?
Where can one find out their names?

Gene said...

These people should be fired and kicked out of Church vocations. It is as simple as that.

Anonymous said...

This is the link to read the text of these dissident nuns' letter and list of names:
http://divine-ripples.blogspot.com/2010/03/dissident-nuns-support-of-obamacare.html

so sorry if these links don't work, I'm no techie..
But PLEASE take the time to read them. It is important.

It is not my place to cast stones, so I'll simply say this dissident influence is in the Macon, Ga deanery.

Below is the proper response by the President of The Council of Major Superiors of Women Religious, Mother Mary Quentin Sheridan, R.S.M. (Religious Sisters of Mercy)

http://divine-ripples.blogspot.com/2010/03/dissident-nuns-support-of-obamacare.html

She speaks in support of the United States Catholic Conference of Catholic Bishops and calls these dissidents to put away their sins or stop being nuns. Go Mother Mary!

Personally, I judge no one, will slander no one, and will pray FOR All.

Gene said...

Well, let's pray for them after we kick them out. All these dissident Catholics, especially those in Catholic vocations should be marginalized, excommunicated, or otherwise rejected. I'd rather have a smaller, stronger Church than a large one filled with whiners, rebels, and troublemakers. The times we live in don't allow for the kind of doctrinal and theological tolerance you might find in an academic setting of some kind. There is a war going on for the life of the Church, if not the culture. Get mean...then pray.

Anonymous said...

I recently heard that the Church is big enough for everyone, and that all our essential beliefs are contained within the Apostle's Creed. So that essentially those outside of the Creed are open to some degree to personal opinion.
Is this true?